Posts Tagged ‘Occupy LA’

Occupy SF Prepares For Raid. Oakland Video, LA Threatened.

Wednesday, October 26th, 2011

Some news from northern California. Occupy LA threatened with eviction by mayor.

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Occupy SF

Camp Location: Justin Herman Plaza

OccupySF has received reliable word from law enforcement and government officials that a possible police raid will happen tonight. Please come support OccupySF with your peaceful presence and dance with us in non-violent solidarity to facilitate building strong community in the face of adversity. Bring the love and positive energy!

http://occupysf.com/

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Occupy Oakland

Oakland Spends Millions in Attack on Occupy Protesters, Closes 5 Schools Next Day

October 26, 2011

On Tuesday evening at 5pm Occupy Oakland gathered at the foot of the Oakland Library on 14th Avenue before setting off on a march past the jail and onward to Frank Ogawa Plaza. The peaceful gathering swelled as it marched through downtown, growing upwards of 1,000 people strong. Along their route were police from 17 jurisdictions in California, decked out in riot gear and weaponry.

Just before 8pm the police began throwing concussion grenades and tear gas directly into the crowd, injuring several nonviolent protesters. Weapons were aimed and fired at people as they attempted to help the injured and bring them to safety. The crowd reconvened a block away and continued to peacefully occupy the streets outside the plaza. For several hours this scenario was repeated as citizens tried to gain entrance to the plaza while the police held their line using “non-lethal” rifles, tear gas, and barricades.

The city has spent several million dollars in this campaign to shut down free speech in Oakland. Meanwhile today the Oakland Unified School District will vote on closing down 5 schools: Lakeview, Lazear, Marshall, Maxwell Park and Santa Fe. They will meet at 5pm at Oakland Technical High, where they will be met with protestors from Occupy Oakland and other groups demanding a more sane and just allocation of the city’s resources.

Occupy Oakland will reconvene every day at 6pm at 14th & Broadway until the camp is reestablished. Join us!

http://www.occupyoakland.org/

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Occupy Oakland battle in the Streets

http://youtu.be/QngE6kKk8Lg

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LA Times

Mayor Villaraigosa: Occupy L.A. ‘cannot continue indefinitely’

October 26, 2011 | 3:39pm

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said Wednesday that the Occupy Los Angeles encampment outside City Hall “cannot continue indefinitely” and has asked city officials to draft restrictions limiting when people are allowed on city property.

“I respect the protesters’ right to peacefully assemble and express their views,” Villaraigosa said. “City officials have been in a continuous and open dialogue with the organizers of Occupy L.A. However, the protesters must respect city laws and regulations, and while they have been allowed to camp on City Hall lawns, that cannot continue indefinitely.”

A spokeswoman for the mayor said he has also instructed city officials to begin drafting a plan to identify another location for the demonstration.

In an interview Wednesday, the mayor said county health inspectors recently visited the encampment and expressed concerns over the cleanliness of the camp. In addition, the demonstration is hurting the city’s lawn and trees.

“The lawn is dead, our sprinklers aren’t working … our trees are without water,” Villaraigosa said.

He said he has instructed city officials to begin drafting restrictions limiting when people are allowed at City Hall. That could lay the groundwork for the city to force protesters to abandon the tent city surrounding City Hall where they’ve been camped for nearly a month.

It was not clear how the proposed rules would be different from a current law that bars people from camping in city parks after 10:30 p.m. Police have not been enforcing that law at City Hall and have allowed the 350 or so nightly protesters to camp there overnight.
On Wednesday, City Atty. Carmen Trutanich said police should impose the park law.

“To protect the public health and safety of all residents, the LAPD and General Services Police can and should enforce the law in a fair, consistent, and even-handed manner,” Trutanich said. “The law addresses conduct. Enforcement may not be based on the content of any political or personal opinion or message.”

Meanwhile, about a dozen protesters showed up at Wednesday’s City Council meeting to ask lawmakers to allow them to stay. Protester Alex Everett, 26, said he came because he was alarmed by Councilman Bill Rosendahl’s comments to KABC that it was time for protesters “to move on.”

Everett, who moved out of his house and into a tent outside of City Hall two weeks ago, said he thinks many protesters would not leave without a fight. He said if police move in to clear out the protest, like Oakland police did Tuesday, “it will be violent.”

Everett said protesters don’t have a shared vision of how the demonstrations around the country will go forward, and whether or not the emphasis should be on maintaining camps or on trying to elect lawmakers, or get certain financial regulations enacted.

“Victory is different to different people,” he said.

Although he believes the occupations will “taper down eventually,” Everett said: “This movement’s never going to end.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/occupy-la-mayor-antonio-villaraigosa.html

Time For Action - Occupy Hood, Marxist-Humanist Meeting

Sunday, October 23rd, 2011

I was at Occupy LA most of the evening. There was close to a thousand persons at the General Assembly and another couple of hundred at a techno party on the west side of the park. Other people were in tents, or in small groups around the park. It seemed very together, in some respects, as a rock concert perhaps, but they are not moving fast enough into the community around them. They mostly just hang around the city hall park and party. Some activists from Occupy the Hood seemed to want to push them into the streets but I don’t think enough people realized what is needed. A Black Panther style discipline might help. Some people, former military, older working class people, serious activists realize what is needed. The problem is to work through the process, which because it is consensus, is very awkward and time consuming because everybody has to be brought on board.

Meantime the world is waiting to see what we are going to tell them. Unless there is action that motivates people and outreach to communities to get a broader base, what we will have is hippies and students, having a camp out and the rest of us will be frustrated at the lack of action, direction or planning. Being able to sustain a campground is not a major accomplishment. Being able to feed people from donations is not a major accomplishment, we are just taking food and money that would go to homeless shelters.

We need to being to take action. Occupy banks, someone mentioned a great idea, teach-ins in front of Banks being done in San Diego. That is something that should be done daily. It is hard for me, I have to be back at my apartment every night to do dialysis. After an hour or so in a meeting I get tired. Most of these General Assemblies go on for 3 hours or more. That is simply too much time. People with nothing to do, or no place to go, can sit for hours and debate, it is normal, natural for a college student. I was like that when I was 19 or 20. I had to be goaded to work back then. Now, years later, with little time left, I am like most of America, impatiently waiting for the Occupy groups to get serious and develop a leadership and demands and take action that will make a difference. Running a campground is one thing, but a revolution, that is something else entirely.

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Occupy the Hood from RAC Page.

Community Page about Power to the PeopleIt is the Mission of Occupy The Hood (in solidarity with Occupy Wall St) to get POC more involved in the Occupy Movement
Description Occupy The Hood stands in Solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street
movement… It is imperative that the voice of POC is heard
at this moment! We must not be forgotten as the world progresses to the next economical stage. We can all agree that the voices in our
communities are especially needed in this humanitarian struggle. We
are our future and we posses the energy needed to push the occupy
movement to the next phase.

We are The Least Represented
We are Among The Ignored
We are Among The Unemployed
We are Considered The Under Educated
We are Considered The Minority
We are The Consumers
But most importantly WE ARE THE HOOD!!

The neighborHOODs is where the hearts of the people are. Our homes, our parks, our selves. It is in our best interest to have all abled voices heard to bring forth a peaceful solution in this world we have been given. There are millions of people that are effected by the Wall Street crisis. The questionable, unethical activities downtown Manhattan… and in Corporate America directly effects our economic struggles and the future of all business and personal endeavors.

Mission :::

Our mission is to encourage individuals & community based organizations to be involved. We need to be present at General Assembly’s, sit-ins, marches and rallies, when and where needed. We must also initiate our own protests and boycotts. We will be seen and heard on our own, along-with and in unison with all the occupy-the-world movements until we bring forth a viable solution…. no matter how long it takes. Numbers speak volumes but the most important number to note at this time is the number one..

Our voices are going to blend as one.
Website http://www.twitter.com/occupythehood
http://revolutionaryautonomouscommunities.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-hood.html

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The representative of Occupy the Hood made a long statement at the General Assembly in Los Angeles Sat. Oct. 22, it was a clear anti-capitalist, revolutionary statement, and got treated as far as I could tell with polite clapping. They spoke of moving into the community, but I am afraid they will be stuck in the statement stage.

I noticed the union presence was missing. It seems they come when they have marches to recruit bodies and to inspire people to action. But they are not there on a day to day basis.

Earlier today I went to a Marxist-Humanist meeting. Led By Kevin Anderson, professor of Political Science, Sociology and Feminist Studies at UC Santa Barbara. One of his students gave a power point presentation of Marx’s Civil War writing, emphasis in his anti-racist approach to class struggle. Basically saying that the Blacks in the USA and Irish in Great Britain needed to be free before the respective working classes would make any advances. For as long as they placed racial solidarity over class solidarity the white working class would be attached to their masters. This was also pointed out by Anderson in his lecture after she finished. The point seemed to be that class struggle and anti-racism are intertwined.

Anderson spoke of Franz Fanon who made the point that nationalism and national freedom from colonialism was necessary to achieve internationalism. At least that is how I interpreted what he was saying. I am still not sure about this little study group. Most of the attendees are students of the Professor. A couple of people from LA seem to be genuine members of the group. I brought my girlfriend to see if she would absorb any of the political theory. We left before the discussion period, I mostly went to leave some material about Occupy LA. They agreed to come to one of the occupation sites on November 5th, the day we are supposed to remove money from our bank accounts. I wondered aloud if they were interested in setting up a literature table at Occupy LA.

http://www.usmarxisthumanists.org/

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From San Diego Reader

Downtown Bank of America Closes Due to Protesters

By Esther Rubio-Sheffrey | Published Friday, Oct. 21, 2011

Downtown’s Bank of America branch on B Street shut down early on the afternoon of October 20 out of safety concerns: approximately 25 protesters, most part of the Occupy San Diego movement, staged a peaceful “teach-in” and protest in front of the bank.

For roughly three hours, several protesters talked to anyone who would listen about how big banks like Bank of America helped to perpetuate the current economic crisis and accepted large bail-outs at the expense of taxpayers.

Protesters chanted, “Remember, remember, the fifth of November,” the date on which thousands of people nationwide have pledged to close their accounts with large banks and transfer their funds to local credit unions.

“Corporate greed has taken over politics,” said one of the protesters, Christopher McKay. “The banks got bailed out, the CEOs made millions of dollars, and the American people got left behind. The American people need to understand that financial security with big banks is not safe. These banks gave bad loans out on purpose. We are coming to a bank near you.”

McKay and his fellow protesters covered the bank’s entrance with signs that had a variety of messages and calls to action. Many protesters stood on the edge of the sidewalk with their signs, garnering honks of support from many who drove by. Several police officers were onsite throughout the protest but did not interfere.

Corbin, a younger protester attending the event with his siblings, said he felt compelled to take to the streets because he is “tired of the banks controlling where the wealth goes.”

Organizers planned to be at Wells Fargo’s downtown location Friday and intended to continue targeting other banks.

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2011/oct/21/stringers-downtown-bank-america-closes-due-/

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From ABC News

By Alyssa Newcomb

Oct 22, 2011 7:16pm

Occupy Wall Street Protests on GE CEO’s Lawn

A crowd of 100 protesters, some from New York City’s Occupy Wall Street movement and others from Occupy New Haven, came together in a show of solidarity on Saturday afternoon on General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt’s front lawn in New Canaan, Conn.

“[General Electric is] an enormously successful company that pays no income taxes. We felt it was important for someone like Jeff Immelt to hear from people who are struggling in this economy,” said Jon Green, director of the Connecticut Working Families Party.

Many of those who came from New York were responding to an invitation posted on Occupy Wall Street’s General Assembly web site that read: “In the land of the free they tax me but not G.E!” It continues, saying: “ General Electric made billions last year; they paid no taxes, outsourced thousands of jobs, and got over $3 billion in tax refunds!”

Immelt reportedly earned $20 million in 2010. Despite his compensation, General Electric continued to shed jobs. According to an ABCNews.com analysis, General Electric has let go more than 19,000 workers since 2008.

Aside from being the CEO of General Electric, Immelt was appointed by President Obama to chair the task force on jobs and competitiveness.

Green said he was unable to tell if Immelt was in his sprawling 10,000-square-foot home, which according to Trulia.com is worth an estimated $5.25 million, at the time of the protest.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-protests-on-ge-ceos-lawn/

Occupy Wall Street, Occupy LA, Stop the Machine, Greek Protests

Wednesday, October 5th, 2011

Tonight there are arrests in New York as Occupy Wall Street participants are being attacked by police. Today Unions joined the Occupy New York group in New York. This seems to have given the group a more militant focus. We shall see how things develop.

I went there Monday again. The encampment had an atmosphere a little like a carnival, or a camp-out in somebodies back yard. The city of LA is being pretty cool. There were only two motorcycle cops watching the group. There was local media all over the place. The general assembly was going on when I visited. It was more like a series of announcements by various committees rather than a general discussion among all present. This seems to be the way the core group of organizers manages to keep control over the direction of the event. I don’t know if that was a conscious decision or just the way things worked out. Most of the talk was of logistics, calls for help, information about meetings, where to go for various services. I saw a lot of food, none of it was Food Not Bombs interestingly. People just donated their services. There was a welcome tent with literature, a printing area, which was just a tiny silkscreen setup and a claim that a buddy at a local print shop was donating copying services, several media tents, where there were people using laptops. Big signs outside of the media areas said “power for media area only.” There was a libertarian presence with an anti-federal government sign among the tents. I did not see the RCP or ANSWER tables or signs. I did see a small finance table for donations. I gave some money on Saturday.

The ANSWER coalition had called for a march that afternoon to support Occupy Wall Street in New York. Perhaps that is where most of the leftists were. I didn’t arrive in time to join them or to see where they were going. One guy was feeding people with homemade chili. My girlfriend had some, she said it was pretty good. I really wanted to stick around but I had to go back to Long Beach and hook up to my dialysis machine.

As it was there were about 300 people gathered around the north steps of LA City hall listening to the announcements, or writing on computers, or socializing. It was a peaceful and happy crowd. The speakers would occasionally make a more radical statement but the impression was not one of militancy but of good humored protest, with lots of witty signs calling for an end to the dominant part the financial sector has on the polity.

It has taken me two days to write this, school and visits to the peritoneal dialysis clinic has taken up my time. On to other matters, there is a group called Stop the Machine, led by long time peace activists, which may be merging with the Occupy DC group to promote a large demo in Washington DC tomorrow. Greek workers are demonstrating again against government austerity measures. I also checked the news on Food Not Bombs, curious about where they stood with regards to the new upsurge in activism. I found one blogger in Florida with an interesting piece.

Things are hotting up in New York as labor unions join in the fun at Occupy Wall Street.

From New York Times

Unions, Seeking New Energy, Join a Protest Against Wall St.

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE and CARA BUCKLEY

Published: October 5, 2011

Stuart Appelbaum, an influential union leader in New York City, was in Tunisia last month, advising the fledgling labor movement there, when he received a flurry of phone calls and e-mails alerting him to the rumblings of something back home. Protesters united under a provocative name, Occupy Wall Street, were gathering in a Lower Manhattan park and raising issues long dear to organized labor.

The Occupy Wall Street protest got reinforcements on Wednesday, when several major unions, including the city’s teachers’ union and the United Auto Workers, joined in a march and a rally.

And gaining attention for it.

Mr. Appelbaum recalled asking a colleague over the phone to find out who was behind Occupy Wall Street — a bunch of hippies or perhaps troublemakers? — and whether the movement might quickly fade.

So far, at least, it has not, and on Wednesday, several prominent unions, struggling to gain traction on their own, made their first effort to join forces with Occupy Wall Street. Thousands of union members marched with the protesters from Foley Square to their encampment in nearby Zuccotti Park.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/nyregion/major-unions-join-occupy-wall-street-protest.html

From ABC News

Occupy Wall Street Protests: Police Make Numerous Arrests

By GREGORY J. KRIEG

Oct. 5, 2011

The cavalry arrived in Lower Manhattan.

Representatives from no fewer than 15 of the country’s largest labor unions joined the Occupy Wall Street protesters for a mass rally and march today in New York City.

The “Union March” drew thousands and appears to be the movement’s largest yet.

Tonight, it has also generated numerous arrests and there are reports of pepper spray and police waving batons at protesters.

Earlier today, the AFL-CIO, United Auto Workers , and Transit Workers’ Union are among the groups that stood in solidarity with the hundreds of mostly young men and women who have spent the better part of three weeks sleeping, eating, and organizing from Zuccotti Square.

Their arrival was touted as a watershed moment for the “Occupy” movement, which has now seen copycat protests spring up across the country. And while the specific demands of the “occupiers” remain wide-ranging, the presence of the unions – implicitly inclined to making more direct demands – may sharpen their focus.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/occupy-wall-street-protests-police-make-numerous-arrests/story?id=14673346

This is from the Stop the Machine site.

Stop the Machine! Create a New World!

A Call to Action - Oct. 6, 2011 and onward

October 2011 is the 10th anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan and the beginning of the 2012 federal austerity budget. It is time to light the spark that sets off a true democratic, nonviolent transition to a world in which people are freed to create just and sustainable solutions.

We call on people of conscience and courage—all who seek peace, economic justice, human rights and a healthy environment—to join together in Washington, D.C., beginning on Oct. 6, 2011, in nonviolent resistance similar to the Arab Spring and the Midwest awakening.

A concert, rally and protest will kick off a powerful and sustained nonviolent resistance to the corporate criminals that dominate our government.

http://october2011.org/statement

Greek civil servants led protests today. Thirty thousand civil servants are to be suspended on partial pay, and there were more tax increases on the working people of Greece.

This is from Bloomberg

Greeks Strike Against Papandreou Cuts, March to Parliament
October 05, 2011, 11:07 AM EDT

By Tom Stoukas

Oct. 5 (Bloomberg) — Greeks walked off their jobs across the nation and as many as 20,000 marched through Athens’ central square to protest Prime Minister George Papandreou’s 6.6 billion-euro ($8.7 billion) austerity plan, challenging a government seeking European bailout funds to stave off default.

The 24-hour strike shut the Athens International Airport, causing 448 flight cancelations, and shuttered schools and archaeological sites to protest Papandreou’s plans to put 30,000 public workers on reduced pay, raise property taxes and cut pensions and wages.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-05/greeks-strike-against-papandreou-cuts-march-to-parliament.html

From Broward Palm Beach New Times
Food Not Bombs Founder Keith McHenry Tours “Occupy Wall Street” Protests

By Stefan KamphWed., Oct. 5 2011 at 2:39 PM

Keith McHenry, founder of Food Not Bombs, who started off our cover story about the movement last month, has spent 30 years traveling around and serving free food at protests and uprisings. So it’s only natural that he’d be getting in on some of the “Occupy Wall Street” action that’s happening across the country (Fort Lauderdale has its first on October 8).

McHenry left his home in Taos last week, driving his van to the occupation in Chicago. “It went from 20 people the first night to 100 on the second night to 200 by the time I left,” McHenry says. “We were near the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. Some of the workers there just kind of ignored us, but after a while, some were showing support. It was so dang cool.”

After that, McHenry drove to Wall Street, setting up a table at Liberty Plaza (a private park that serves as the protest’s headquarters) and serving food.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2011/10/food_not_bombs
_keith_mchenry_occupy_wall_street.php

I checked out their Facebook site, there wasn’t anything about Occupy LA, I left a post asking about their position. I assume they are busy with their own stuff, feeding homeless people in Pershing Square on Sunday, among other things. I also contacted some of the local anarchists to see what their position is on Occupy LA. I saw a bunch of anarchist looking kids on Saturday at the Occupy LA event and people from the IWW. Monday it looked more like modern day hippies and student types, but I am sure each day is different. I am simply glad to see people getting out on the street and becoming active.

This from RAC

RAC-LA Support for Occupy LA

Believing at this that point all direct action struggles against capitalism no matter what their forms–
or the asserted lack of form (unified goals)–are deserving of support, the
Revolutionary Autonomous Communities (RAC-LA) sent 35lbs of beans and two baskets of
vegetables to the brave comrades of “Occupy LA” on Sunday following our
Food Program which next month celebrates its 4 year anniversary.

JAI
RAC-LA


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